Match Thread

Match Thread: Leicester City v West Ham

Leicester City v West Ham
FA Premier League
Kingpower Stadium
KO 12 noon
TV: BT Sport
Radio: WHUFC.com

Please use this thread to comment on the match as it progresses.


Opposition Q & A

Opposition Q&A with Leicester City

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West Ham fans will have released a huge sigh of relief last Sunday as our beloved team finally posted 3 points on the board with an emphatic win over the Wolves. This weekend we face a tougher prospect, away to Leicester City who battered Man City last time out. Ahead of the game I once again chatted to Chris Forryan of online fanzine leicestertilidie to discuss the coming match and season. We also chatted on LeicestertileIdie TV which can be watched "here"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzdE9IMPp6g&ab_channel=LeicesterTillIDieTV.

Hi Chris, Leicester have got off to a flying start this season, you must be delighted?
Very much so, tempered with a dose of realism. Remember how well we started last season, but hey its 3 wins and a massive one over Man City.

Last season you finished up 5th – a very creditable position to most of us, were you satisfied by this, or are you expecting to be in the top 4 every year now?
Of course we are football fans, but let me take off my blue tinted spectacles, breaking into the top 6 on a regular basis is hard as the likes of Arsenal & Spurs get their acts back together. For me its not about breaking into the top 6 but making it a top seven and Leicester being the seventh team.

After a few rapid changes at the helm of your club, you seem to have settled with Brendan Rogers, how do the Leicester City fans rate him?
Take away the moaners that every club has and take a bite of realism and I have to say we are very happy with him. Yes he took some stick for the way we trailed off last season and some fans still don’t like the passing game, preferring the counter attack exciting play of the Ranieri year, but the problem may be keeping hold of him, but Rodgers/Leicester is a long term project.

*I note you have just bought a new French defender Wesley Fofana (who apparently preferred you lot to West Ham), is he needed? How do you feel about your close season transfer dealings?

We saw last year how thin our squad is especially at the back. Once you get past the Evans/Soncyu partnership our back up is thin. Yes we have Morgan but he is getting on a bit, and its great to have Amarety back but with the PL, Europa and FA cup we need the cover, and again referring back to the long term project I was talking about all Rodgers 3 signings have been young players that can develop. I was worried, but after 3 signings I am happy.

Early days yet, but who are your picks for the top 4 this season, in order?
Liverpool / Man City / Chelsea / Man Utd

Similarly who’s going to be relegated?
Fulham / West Brom / Southampton

Is David Moyes going to prove to be the man to get West Ham in the top half of the table?
Moyes has never replicated his Everton success. He will keep you up but not top 10 and that might not be enough for your owners.

Which players if any would you like to swap the West Claret and Blue for a Leicester City shirt, if so why?
The question is who would I drop from the current Leicester side to accommodate a West Ham player? Declan Rice is an obvious choice though still young and will end up at a top club (no disrespect) but I like Antonio & Anderson.

Likewise which of your players would you prefer to see playing for us?
Demari Gray, take him please. Had long enough to develop and hasnt under 3 different managers not fancying him which says it all.

Should the Premier League be paying to bail out the lower professional leagues?
My heart says yes 100% but my head? Well would you expect Tesco to help out the little corner shop? It wouldnt happen in business and football is business. But when you see the £millions PL clubs are still spending this transfer window there is a moral question to be asked. Maybe PL clubs could but lower division clubs and use them as feeder clubs?

How are Leicester going to live up against us this weekend – Players/Formation?
Rogers tried something different against Man City and seems to set up to soak early opposition pressure for the first 20 mins, then go for it. You will be confident after the Wolves win so we could see no changes from the Man City side. The only change is that Madison may be ready to start a game but Praet would be dissapointed to be dropped after his good start to the season.

Are you confident you can make it 4 wins in the bounce, or are West Ham going to throw a spammer in the works? Predictions for score?
Up until your win over Wolves I was feeling confident, not so much now but still going 3-1 to Leicester.

Very confident! Well thanks to Chris Forryan once again for his time and thoughts. I was originally hoping to get a draw against Leicester, then edged towards a win after our victory against Wovles, but after our loss to Everton, I’ve reverted to the original draw. 1 – 1. Come on you Irons!

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Dan Coker's Match Preview

Match Preview: Leicester v West Ham

NOTE FROM IAIN: The Predictor League for Leicester City on Sunday is ready to enter HERE . The deadline for entries is 10am on Sunday morning.

Blast from the past

Back in 1967/68, West Ham United visited Leicester City on the 30th December 1967, beating the Foxes 4-2 at Filbert Street in front of 24,589. This away victory came just four days after a Boxing Day win by the same scoreline at Upton Park. Harold Wilson was Prime Minister, The Beatles were number one with ‘Hello, Goodbye’ and Half A Sixpence was in UK cinemas.

The Hammers took the lead when Martin Peters found Trevor Brooking who struck left-footed beyond 18-year-old future England goalkeeper Peter Shilton. The Foxes would turn the game on its head by half-time though, with Bobby Svarc and the late Frank Large scoring for the hosts.

24-year-old Brian Dear (pictured) followed up his hat-trick in the Boxing Day fixture against the same opposition by scoring twice in the second half – his first, the equaliser, was a header from a right-wing Geoff Hurst cross. Johnny Sissons gave the Irons the lead for the second time, scoring direct from a left-wing corner to embarrass Shilton. Dear’s second was a thumping left-foot strike with three minutes to go which sealed the points and moved the Hammers into 14th place. The goals from this match can be seen in the video below.

By the end of the 1967/68 season, Manchester United had recorded their first European Cup triumph, Manchester City won the First Division title, West Brom won the FA Cup and West Ham United claimed 12th place in the top flight. Bobby Moore was voted Hammer of the Year, with Brooking runner-up. Hurst was the Irons’ top goalscorer with 25 goals from 44 matches.

Leicester City: Peter Shilton, Peter Rodrigues, John Sjoberg, David Nish, Willie Bell, Alan Tewley, Bobby Roberts, Len Glover, Bobby Svarc, Frank Large, Davie Gibson (Alan Woollett).

West Ham United: Bobby Ferguson, Billy Bonds, Bobby Moore, John Cushley, Frank Lampard, Ronnie Boyce, Martin Peters, Trevor Brooking, Johnny Sissons, Geoff Hurst, Brian Dear.

Club Connections

Players who have represented both the Hammers and the Foxes include:

Goalkeepers: George Hebden, Colin Mackleworth.

Defenders: Gary Charles, Chris Powell, Dickie Pudan, Rufus Brevett, Paul Konchesky, Dai Jones, Matthew Upson, Clive Clarke, Billy Oakes, Fred Milnes, John Paintsil.

Midfielders: Andy Impey, Shaun Newton, Nolberto Solano, Franz Carr, Sid Bishop.

Strikers: David Connolly, Mike Newell, Brian Deane, Keith Robson, Paul Kitson, David Speedie, Bertie Lyon, Norman Proctor, Les Ferdinand, David Kelly, Tony Cottee, Jimmy Quinn.

Martin Allen, Frank O’Farrell and Jimmy Bloomfield have played for the Hammers and managed the Foxes.

Today’s focus is on an inside-forward who represented Leicester Fosse before later playing for Thames Ironworks. Albert Carnelly was born in Nottingham on 29th December 1870. He played locally for junior clubs Beeston St John’s in 1887, Westminster Amateurs (Nottingham) in 1888 and Mapperley in 1889. He joined Notts County in July 1890 before turning professional with Loughborough in December of that year. Carnelly joined Nottingham Forest in May 1894, playing two seasons in the First Division, before dropping into Division Two in May 1896 for a season with Leicester Fosse (now known as Leicester City).

Fosse supporters were already aware of Carnelly after the inside-forward had scored a hat-trick against them in a Midland League game whilst playing for Loughborough. Carnelly made his debut for Henry Jackson’s Leicester in a 4-1 home win over Darwen on 5th September 1896. He scored his first goal for the club in a 2-1 home win over Blackpool on 3rd October that year and went on to score ten goals in 31 appearances in all competitions, including bagging two doubles – in a 4-2 home win over Walsall on 28th November 1896 and in a 6-3 home win against Arsenal on 13th February 1897. Carnelly scored his last goal for Leicester Fosse in a 3-3 home draw with Manchester City on 12th April 1897, and made his final appearance for the club in a goalless home draw with Gainsborough Trinity a week later.

Carnelly moved south in July 1897 to play in the Southern League at Bristol City for two years. The 29-year-old Carnelly (pictured) signed for Thames Ironworks in the summer of 1899, ahead of the Irons’ final season before reforming as West Ham United. A consistent scorer who missed only one Southern League match and one FA Cup tie in his solitary season with the club, Carnelly made his Irons debut in a 1-0 Southern League defeat at Reading on 16th September 1899 and scored his first goals for the club on his home debut two days later, becoming an instant hit with the Memorial Grounds crowd by notching a brace in a 4-0 win over Chatham. This started an impressive run of seven goals in five games, five of which came in the FA Cup – one in a 4-0 win at Grays, two in a 4-2 home win over Sheppey and another double in a 7-0 win at Dartford on 28th October as the Irons won through to the competition’s fourth qualifying round. His next goal came in that next round, in a 2-0 home replay win over New Brompton (the club now known as Gillingham) on 23rd November 1899 – the Irons would be knocked out by arch-rivals Millwall in the fifth qualifying round.

Carnelly had to wait until the New Year (and the 20th century) for his next goal though, scoring in a 3-1 defeat at Chatham on 6th January 1900. He embarked on another goalscoring spree, notching three goals in as many matches in January/February; he scored in a 3-0 win at Sheppey United on 20th January 1900 and was also on target in a 2-1 defeat at Gravesend United four days later. His third goal in three games came in a 3-1 defeat at Bedminster on 10th February 1900. Carnelly’s last strikes for the club came when he scored both the Irons’ goals in a 2-1 home win over Gravesend United on 24th March 1900. Thames Ironworks finished in 14th place and would be required to play a Test Match against Fulham to maintain their senior divisional standing; the 5-1 victory in this match on 30th April 1900, which preserved the club’s Southern League First Division status, would be Carnelly’s final appearance for the club. Just over a month later, the club was reformed as West Ham United.

After scoring 14 goals in 34 appearances for Thames Ironworks, the much-travelled Carnelly joined Millwall; after a season with the Lions, he moved to Ilkeston Town in 1901. After regaining amateur status in 1903, he finished his playing career with Nottingham Corporation Tramways. Albert Carnelly passed away on 18th August 1920 in Nottingham, at the age of 49.

Referee

Sunday’s referee will be 37-year-old West Yorkshire-based Andrew Madley, who will take on his second Hammers appointment. Madley, the older brother of Bobby Madley, has refereed four matches so far in 2020/21 – two in the Championship, one in Europa League qualifying and one in the League Cup. He has dished out 12 yellow cards and one red in those four games, as well as awarding three penalties.

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Madley’s only match in charge of the Hammers to date was for our 2-0 win at Gillingham in the FA Cup third round in January this year.

Possible line-ups

Leicester City should have Jonny Evans, Cengiz Under, Demarai Gray and Jamie Vardy available but Ricardo Pereira, Filip Benkovic and Wilfred Ndidi will miss out. Dennis Praet is a doubt. Leicester are vying to win their opening four league games for the first time in their history.

For West Ham United, Ryan Fredericks is definitely out but Issa Diop and Josh Cullen are available. West Ham’s solitary victory in the past 11 Premier League meetings against the Foxes, home or away, was a 2-0 triumph at the King Power Stadium in May 2018 – the Irons have drawn four and lost six of the remaining ten. Michail Antonio could become the first Hammers player to score in five consecutive top-flight away matches since Mike Small in 1991.

Possible Leicester City XI: Schmeichel; Castagne, Soyuncu, Evans, Amartey, Justin; Praet, Mendy, Tielemans, Barnes; Vardy.

Possible West Ham United XI: Fabianski; Coufal, Diop, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Masuaku; Bowen, Rice, Soucek, Fornals; Antonio.

Enjoy the game – Up The Hammers!


Match Report

Through The Wolverine Looking Glass

NOTE FROM IAIN: The Predictor League for Leicester City on Sunday is ready to enter HERE . The deadline for entries is 10am on Sunday morning.

As I prepared to watch the game at Wolves, I prepared myself for another psychological drubbing.I know a lot of us have been questioning whether it was worth it or was the game up as far as the Hammers were concerned and I am one of them.

As I passed through the living room on the way to the lounge, I paused in front of a large mirror. ‘What if ?’, I thought. Nothing lost by giving it a chance. I went up to the mirror and tried one leg first. It passed through the mirror. Then, the other leg and I was through the looking glass.

On the other side there was a football pitch mowed so that the squares looked like a chess board. A game is about to start, one team in gold and the other in claret and blue. But this is alternate universe. West Ham are playing with three at the back, a formation they should have adopted years ago. Instead, the Red King a Chilean, who it turned out was suffering from dementia, insisted on playing his formation. His lat posting was at the Charge of the Light Brigade.

This team seemed so solid. I lost that sick feeling in my stomach that whatever happened up front, anything could happen at the back. Cresswell had seemed to find his place. He felt confident he could go forward and deliver his beautiful crosses. Baluena, who was supposed to be out of form , was solid. Rice was brilliant. If he were to be sold for £40 million, it would be the crime of the century. Soucek and Bowen were inspired and seemed determined to give everything. Antonio, the bull up front, was causing chaos amongst the opposition. Masuaku was a wonder with his skillful plays on the ball.

And then, an inspired goal set us on the path to glory. We were unstoppable. Why did we need to buy more players, when our reserve team cost more than than the first team? Even Haller gave us a glimpse of what he could achieve. Bringing in new players could be disruptive.

The Red Queen approached me. ‘Don’t you like our new stadium? It’s so big. Have you seen me on TV pretending to be a top business woman? Don’t you think we should change our name to Olympic West Ham? It’s so much more prestigious.’

She was followed by Teedledum and Tweedledee.’Did you listen to my interview on Talksport ?’, Tweedledum asked. ‘It’s everyone else’s faults you know. I haven’t got any money’. He turned out his pockets to illustrate his point.’The fans wanted the Red King, so it’s their fault he turned out to be loco.’

Tweedledee tried to sell me a dildo, as he said his shops were in trouble.

There on a wall was Humpty Dumpty. He could come near me as he was self isolating. As the game progressed he started to do cartwheels across the wall. I warned him to be careful, as he could fall off the wall at any time.

The White Knight , who had an American accent, appeared and started negotiations to buy the football pitch from Tweedledum and Tweedledee. But they wanted at least nine hundred million currant buns and the White Knight only had three hundred million in his backpack.

The whistle went and West Ham had won 4-0. I realised this was a fantasy and woke up on the couch with the cat licking my face. Oh, if only this were possible. A West Ham with a strong defence, a brilliant midfield and an attack which could produce wonderful goals.


Nigel Kahn’s Column

Chasing A Moral Defeat

NOTE FROM IAIN: The Predictor League for Leicester City on Sunday is ready to enter HERE . The deadline for entries is 10am on Sunday morning.

Thursday

The Chase was on. No, not West Hams pursuit of some non-existent footballer we may or may not be hoping to sign, But my appearance on My Hammers XI YouTube channels version of the chase.

When asked by the host Russ to be the chaser I didn’t know the calibre of opponents I would face. It is one thing being a perceived know all about West Ham, it’s another proving it, and when faced with the 3 other contestants it was obvious the one who would give me most trouble the author Rob Banks.

No disrespect to Mike Manera and my mate Stelios from Irons United, I didn’t see them as putting up much trouble to me, especially as poor old Stel was texting me trying to take his place on the show, not knowing he was facing me. I didn’t give the game away to the point I convinced him not to pull out of taking part. It’s just for charity mate. To be honest, I didn’t want him replaced with someone that may be more difficult.

As I thought, Rob Banks would be the one to give me a good run for my money. The main reason for the show was of course to raise money for the Irons fans Foodbank and high lite the great work they are doing in these times.

John Ratomski who is the driving force behind it needs to be held up high and acclaimed for the great achievement of the Iron fans Group in supporting the local foodbanks in East London and South West Essex, with fans missing from football games, that dried up the donations but John in conjunction with the bigger group of Fans supporting foodbanks, he has made sure the flow of support has been coming in. This week John personally delivered hundreds of boxes of Pizzas and frozen bread that had been donated down to Newham and Ilford – no mean feat when you live in Cheshire (or somewhere near there? Basically up norf) as John does.

My vote for West Ham fan of the year, if the club does it.

For those interested, you can watch the show here

Sunday v Wolves

When the chips are down, it’s great to see West Ham still have the ability to surprise us. As per usual recently most games are preceded with doom and gloom comments, ranging from players picked, players not picked, the formation of the team, the manager generally does not have a clue. All those comments you will see game after game across many of the West Ham platforms and yet despite that negativity we witness another great performance from this team. One swallow does not make a summer, and one victory does not define a season, but surely after the 3rd 4 goal haul since David Moyes started his second stint we can at least acknowledge that perhaps this team is not as bad as is the perception.

One area where it seems I am at odds with many of the fanbase is what the formation of the team is at the moment. Before we lost Noble to his toe injury, Moyes favoured a 451 line up. With Noble out, he moved Fornals into Noble’s position and brought in Arthur to the left side vacated by Noble.

Many, though, seem to think Moyes has changed to a 3 at the back with Arthur and Fredericks as wing-backs. Basically a 352 formation or is it 361, or even 343.

Whatever it is, when I question those who claim we play 3 at the back with 2 wing backs out wide they seem to fail to answer, where is Bowen in that formation as predominately against Wolves he was still wide right, in front of Fredericks, as was Masuaku in front of Cresswell. If it is 2 upfront, who is there with Antonio.??

My favourite moment on twitter for ages happened during the early part of the game. A budding young journalist tweeted he would have played Yarmalenko, as he brings goals.
I asked him who he would drop, Bowen he replied.

The rest, as they say, is history.

To be honest, I don’t get hung up too much with formation, though its obvious Moyes hasn’t changed his way of playing. Personally, I feel we need to break the negativity surrounding the team, this for me is not a bad team, on its day it will give some of the best teams in the league a good game and will go on to surprise us. Yes, there are areas that need strengthening but if this is the hand we are dealt once the transfer window has closed I for one won’t be pulling my hair out in frustration and predicting certain relegation battle.

Wednesday v Everton

Apparently, we have a weak squad, and yet our midweek cup team cost more to assemble that the current first 11 picks. That, of course, is helped by the fact our two record transfer buys are deemed not to be first 11. Throw in Yarmolanko and Lanzini and as much like the first team, going forward should be able to cause them trouble. I’m pretty confident, for a change, of us, being able to progress to the quarter-final of the league cup, Everton has made a cracking start this season, but at some point that run has to end and I imagine they will be more interested in the league rather than the league cup.

As I write that Everton go 1-0 up. Oh well, don’t want to win this Micky Mouse cup anyway, not with fans probably missing from the final, though imagine if West Ham did make the final at Wembley with no fans allowed. I know where ill be watching it, Wembley Way on my phone. probably with another 30,000 Hammers fans. We can all but dream.

Until next week.


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