Match Thread

Match Thread: West Ham v Newcastle United

West Ham v Newcastle United
FA Premier League
London Stadium
KO 5.30pm
TV: Sky Sports
Radio: WHUFC.com

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Dan Coker's Match Preview

Match Preview: West Ham v Newcastle

Blast from the past

West Ham United hosted Newcastle United on 26th September 1925, the same day that golfer Walter Hagen won the eighth PGA Championship at Olympia Fields, Illinois and the Italian submarine Sebastiano Veniero was sunk by collision and lost off Sicily, with 54 dead.

The Hammers, meanwhile, bagged maximum points with a 1-0 First Division victory over the Magpies in front of 24,722 at Upton Park. Legendary centre-forward Vic Watson (pictured below) scored the winning goal and would go on to be the Irons’ top scorer in 1925/26, with 20 goals from 39 games.

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Syd King’s Hammers, who had topped the table in mid-September, went on to finish in 18th place in the 1925/26 Division One season, two points clear of relegation, while Newcastle ended up 10th. Huddersfield won the league title and Bolton won the FA Cup, beating the relegated Manchester City in the Final.

West Ham United: Ted Hufton, Tommy Hodgson, Billy Henderson, George Carter, Jim Barrett, Albert Cadwell, Tommy Yews, Stan Earle, Vic Watson, Billy Moore, Jimmy Ruffell.

Newcastle United: Willie Wilson, Alf Maitland, Frank Hudspeth, Tom Curry, Charlie Spencer, Willie Gibson, Tom Urwin, Bob Clark, Jimmy Loughlin, Tom McDonald, Tom Mitchell.

Club Connections

West Ham United and Newcastle United have shared a multitude of personnel over the years. Mohamed Diame could play for the visitors against his old club, while Andy Carroll welcomes his former employers. A brief run-through of others who have represented both clubs is best served by dividing them by playing position.

Goalkeepers: Shaka Hislop, Pavel Srnicek and Ike Tate.

Defenders: Stuart Pearce, Tommy Bamlett, Abdoulaye Faye, Wayne Quinn, Dave Gardner, Dickie Pudan and James Jackson.

Midfielders: Kevin Nolan, Scott Parker, Lee Bowyer, Rob Lee, Nolberto Solano, Kieron Dyer and Franz Carr.

Strikers: James Loughlin, Paul Goddard, Les Ferdinand, John Dowsey, Bryan ‘Pop’ Robson, Justin Fashanu, Demba Ba, Marlon Harewood, David Kelly, Keith Robson, Vic Keeble, Craig Bellamy and Paul Kitson.

Chris Hughton also played for the Hammers and managed the Magpies while Sam Allardyce and Alan Pardew have managed both clubs. Glenn Roeder also played for Newcastle and managed both clubs.

Today’s focus though is on a goalkeeper who won international recognition at Newcastle before joining the Hammers. Matt Kingsley was born in Edgworth, Lancashire, on 30th September 1874 and started his footballing career with local village club Turton before moving to Darwen. The 23-year-old Kingsley joined newly-promoted Newcastle in 1898, making his debut in the Magpies’ first ever First Division fixture against Wolves on 3rd September 1898 and spending the next six years in the North East, establishing himself as one of the finest goalkeepers in the top flight.

In 1901, Kingsley became Newcastle’s first ever England international. Playing on home turf at St James’ Park, Kingsley kept a clean sheet in a 6-0 win over Wales but it would be his only cap for his country. The 1901/02 season was a particular highlight for both Kingsley and the Magpies, as they recorded their then-highest league finish of third in the First Division, as well as reaching the quarter-finals of the FA Cup. Kingsley conceded only 34 goals in 34 league games that season but lost his place to Jimmy Lawrence midway through the 1903/04 campaign.

After 189 appearances for Newcastle, the 29-year-old Kingsley (pictured) moved to Syd King’s West Ham United in 1904, where he spent a single season with the Hammers in the Southern League First Division. He made his debut in the inaugural match at Upton Park, a 3-0 win over Millwall on 1st September 1904, becoming the Irons’ first goalkeeper at the Boleyn Ground and the first to keep a clean sheet at the famous old stadium. Stocky, and short for a goalkeeper at 5’9, Kingsley was noted for his fisted clearances so as to avoid being bundled into the back of the net by opposition forwards. Kingsley also had a habit of continually swinging his arms to and fro as he observed the action in front of him. A feisty character, Kingsley made 30 appearances in 1904/05, keeping nine clean sheets as the Hammers finished 11th.

Kingsley was involved in an unsavoury incident with former West Ham forward Bertie Lyon while playing for the Hammers against Brighton at the Goldstone Ground on 25th March 1905 – Kingsley, who had joined the Irons in the summer Lyon left, was seen to run at Lyon and kick him to the ground, which caused a crowd invasion and a near riot took place. The fracas led to Kingsley being sent off and having to be escorted from the playing field by police, while Lyon was carried from the field; Brighton won the match 3-1. Kingsley only played two more matches for West Ham after the incident, with his final appearance coming in a 2-2 draw at Bristol Rovers on 8th April 1905. He was handed an FA ban for the incident at Brighton shortly after and left the Hammers in the summer of 1905 for a brief spell with Queens Park Rangers.

Kingsley later played for Barrow and Rochdale. After his retirement from the game in 1907, Kingsley returned to the Blackburn area and began working as a nightwatchman for the Manchester textile firm Calico Printers’ Association. Kingsley was enlisted as a quarryman during World War One and later joined the Royal Engineers as a sapper in 1917. The 1939 census listed Kingsley’s occupation as ‘general labourer’. Matt Kingsley died in Leigh, Lancashire, on 27th March 1960, aged 85.

Referee

The referee on Saturday will be Christopher Kavanagh. The Manchester-born official has refereed the Hammers on five previous occasions, most recently for our 2-2 home draw with Brighton, a game in which he failed to punish Lewis Dunk for an elbow on Andy Carroll. He had previously been in charge for our 1-1 draw at Huddersfield in November and our 1-0 home defeat to Wolves in September.

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Kavanagh was the man in the middle for our 2-0 win at Leicester in May and also issued Arthur Masuaku with a red card for spitting in January’s FA Cup fourth round defeat at Wigan. He has been the man in the middle for 16 Premier League matches so far in 2018/19, issuing 52 yellow cards in those games and one red, and awarding three penalties.

Possible line-ups

For West Ham United, Winston Reid, Carlos Sanchez, Jack Wilshere and Andriy Yarmolenko are on the injury list. There are doubts over Fabian Balbuena, Aaron Cresswell, Arthur Masuaku, Ben Johnson and Marko Arnautovic.

Newcastle United are likely to have Rob Elliot, Ciaran Clark and Jonjo Shelvey sidelined. Newcastle have lost only three of their last 11 league games away to West Ham.

Possible West Ham United XI: Fabianski; Fredericks, Diop, Ogbonna, Zabaleta; Rice, Noble, Snodgrass; Antonio, Arnautovic, Anderson.

Possible Newcastle XI: Dubravka; Schar, Lejeune, Lascelles; Yedlin, Hayden, Longstaff, Almiron, Ritchie; Perez, Rondon.

Enjoy the game – Up The Hammers!

P.S. If you’re attending tomorrow’s game, don’t forget to be in your seat by 5.15pm to see the great Billy Bonds receive the long-overdue accolade of having a stand named in his honour – the East Stand at London Stadium. Congratulations Bonzo, thoroughly deserved…


Match Report

Defensive Master Class

When I saw the West Ham team against Man City, I had a sort of brain freeze. My eye was drawn to the name Ben Johnson. Was he the winner of that game they play before every home game, where fan has to press as many flashing lights as he/she can do in thirty seconds? Perhaps this was the prize?

No, he is a young nineteen year old, we’ve had on our books since the age of seven. He was about to have the most memorable day of his life and I thought will probably end up suffering from PTSD for the rest of it. I read he used to be a winger and now he was a full back. That reminded me that Masuaku is a full back and should be a winger. Now, he was to face one of the most potent attacking forces in Europe.

Where was Arnautovic? Apparently, the story goes he is ill, but I think he was accompanying Donald Trump to Vietnam to meet Kim Jong Un, who had promised him a job.

OK, we had decided to throw the game. Nothing wrong in that, looking at how our next fixture is in three days. Give the lads a bit of practice. This left me feeling, as a fan, like a tricoteuse. If you remember, they were the women who sat doing the knitting whilst aristocrats were executed during the French Revolution.

I was reminded of the game against AFC Watford, where we fielded what seemed to be our reserves (they were worse than that). If we lost 4-2 that day, then this was going to be minimum 18-0.

And the first ten minutes seem to be going that way. Man City could have been five up. I was feeling like I was watching a coconut shy or as Man City passed it around deftly, a pinball machine.

Then the next ten minutes passed and we still hadn’t conceded a goal. True Andy Carroll, spent his time cutting grass up front, although he did contribute to the defence. And Fredericks seemed to have learnt the offside rule.

Blow me down, we were into thirty minutes and you could sense the frustration taking hold of the Man City team. And remarkably, we seemed to have gained an extra player to help us. Mahrez. He should be awarded the West Ham medal for lifetime achievement. He couldn’t do anything right and was having a nightmare.

Half time came and went. Lanzini replaced Nasri. Then, a moment came which could have been burnt on my brain for the rest of my life. Lanzini made an absolutely terrific pass to Carroll and………….. I stopped knitting and thumped my knee. Now , I’m walking with a limp.

You know those car insurance fraud, where the car in front slows down, so it is backended by the car behind. That was the penalty. Ronaldo was the car in front and Anderson was the car behind.What a shame!

I thought the tap would be turned on after that. But no, we kept our formation and saw out the game.

So, finally this season, a terrific defensive performance. Fredericks was the man of the match, especially for his clearance off the line. Hopefully, he will learn hugely from this performance and don’t we need just that? Lanzini is getting into gear and we all look forward to what is to come from him. You can’t leave out praise for Fabianski, who gives the side confidence at the back.

But the main point is, West Ham played as a team and kept their concentration to the very end. More of that, please.


The Blind Hammer Column

Pragmatic Pellegrini

Blind Hammer welcomes a pragmatic approach from Pellegrini.

Whilst a defeat is always a disappointment I welcomed Pellegrini’s strategic approach to our clash with City.

Watford’s performance at Anfield demonstrated the perils of not just competing but also managing resources against the Super Rich clubs.

In that context, losing only to a contentious penalty must be counted as a measure of progress. City had won all six of his previous matches against us, with an aggregate score of 22-3.

Pellegrini has repeatedly asserted that West Ham are a “big club”. Yet here he adopted a welcome pragmatic approach. His team competed, toe to toe. Yet they were not gung ho. were they were able to progress and repeatedly catch City players offside. This was not a performance simply built around playing deep.

Despite returning players, Pellegrini has had to manage with relatively wafer thin resources. When looking at the challenges of the current 8 day window the home games against Fulham and Newcastle always represented our most realistic opportunity for collecting points.

The win against Fulham came only after a difficult start. It reinforced the reality that all games in the PL remain challenging and competitive for West Ham. Newcastle on Saturday will represent a test stepped up from last week.

I welcomed Pellegrini’s squad rotation last night. In that context the virus that reportedly excluded Arnautovic, May, providing he recovers in time for Saturday, may represent a blessing in disguise.

It was a positive that not just the emerging talents of Johnson but Diangana and even Rice expanded their experience of premier League football at the highest level. Not just Nasri and Lanzini but also Fredericks gained valuable minutes in their road to fuller recovery. We should remember Fredericks, despite his reputation, has little recent PL experience to fall back on. His breakthrough came in the championship.

Even fringe players like Carroll and Obiang reportedly performed to a higher level. The squad looks stronger after this game than before it.

The recovery of Nasri and Lanzini may well prove critical in the weeks ahead. Anderson has played virtually every game, even having to come on in Cup games, and is probably feeling the strain.

So whilst defeat is disappointing, it is definitely a glass half full moment for me with several positives for both Pellegrini and the squad.

COYI
David Griffith


Match Thread

Match Thread: Manchester City v West Ham

Manchester City v West Ham
FA Premier League
The Etihad Stadium
KO 8pm
TV: Sky Sports
Radio: WHUFC.com

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