Comments on: West Ham v Bolton Match Thread http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/ Iain Dale's Hammers Diary Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:30:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: WestHam.Net | West Ham FC News, Forum & Community | In Development http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53759 WestHam.Net | West Ham FC News, Forum & Community | In Development Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:17:24 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53759 [...] West Ham v Bolton Match Thread « West Ham Till I DieStan, Franco, Parker, Diamanti and Collison (and I am being generous becasue he layed the ball on for Diamanti) the rest can sling their hook! I have never been this disgusted with a West Ham team, I am litterally livid. ... [...] [...] West Ham v Bolton Match Thread « West Ham Till I DieStan, Franco, Parker, Diamanti and Collison (and I am being generous becasue he layed the ball on for Diamanti) the rest can sling their hook! I have never been this disgusted with a West Ham team, I am litterally livid. … [...]

]]> By: Braderz http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53612 Braderz Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:53:14 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53612 Have woken up this morning still feeling gutted after last night, all it was, was one stupid uncharacteristic error that cost us everything. Just watched steve clarkes interview and you can tell he was bitterly dissapointed and low on confidence, i think the whole team is on a big low, he mentioned that he didn't think that the takeover would even go through so he obviously knows something their. But i am not sure that could even help. It is very tight down at the bottom and a couple wins pulls us up the table the bad news is that we have chelsea next. I am really fustrated as if we had won we would have been 15th but the fact is we didn't, again. We really need a confidence boost, once we have got cole back, i think he will be able to help us big time. We are better passing the ball and scoring propper class goals like last night, hoofing the ball is useless. we must sort this out. Have woken up this morning still feeling gutted after last night, all it was, was one stupid uncharacteristic error that cost us everything. Just watched steve clarkes interview and you can tell he was bitterly dissapointed and low on confidence, i think the whole team is on a big low, he mentioned that he didn't think that the takeover would even go through so he obviously knows something their. But i am not sure that could even help. It is very tight down at the bottom and a couple wins pulls us up the table the bad news is that we have chelsea next. I am really fustrated as if we had won we would have been 15th but the fact is we didn't, again. We really need a confidence boost, once we have got cole back, i think he will be able to help us big time. We are better passing the ball and scoring propper class goals like last night, hoofing the ball is useless. we must sort this out.

]]> By: MattRyan http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53571 MattRyan Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:38:10 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53571 Lol thanks mate! In all honesty though, it wasn't supposed to be all doom and glom from me! It was just a feeling! I have had the same feeling that I had in 2003 when we were relegated! And then we had a very very good team! I just couldn't see us getting out of this back in sept! Nobody hoped I would be wrong more than me mate! And I take NO pride whatsoever in me being correct on this occasion! But thanks for the message mate :) Matt Lol thanks mate! In all honesty though, it wasn't supposed to be all doom and glom from me! It was just a feeling! I have had the same feeling that I had in 2003 when we were relegated!

And then we had a very very good team! I just couldn't see us getting out of this back in sept!

Nobody hoped I would be wrong more than me mate! And I take NO pride whatsoever in me being correct on this occasion!

But thanks for the message mate :)

Matt

]]> By: broganq http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53563 broganq Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:53:42 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53563 Fair dues to you Matt, you were one of the doom mongers from very early on but you have been proved correct. We are atrocious and on this form are bound for the championship, which nobody can deny. If we don't change something we will go down. I am so disappointed. I cannot believe we have allowed ourselves to be in this position yet again. In my opinion Zola has to go because so far this year he is incapable of winning enough games and I can't see how that is going to change! Fair dues to you Matt, you were one of the doom mongers from very early on but you have been proved correct. We are atrocious and on this form are bound for the championship, which nobody can deny. If we don't change something we will go down.

I am so disappointed. I cannot believe we have allowed ourselves to be in this position yet again. In my opinion Zola has to go because so far this year he is incapable of winning enough games and I can't see how that is going to change!

]]> By: glenp http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53544 glenp Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:56:54 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53544 I'm calling Green Dracula...scared of crosses.what's happened to him?If he wants away he's not doing himself too much good in the shop window stakes is he? as for England's number one....may be he needs a rest,and a chance to get back to where he was. I’m calling Green Dracula…scared of crosses.what’s happened to him?If he wants away he’s not doing himself too much good in the shop window stakes is he? as for England’s number one….may be he needs a rest,and a chance to get back to where he was.

]]> By: SwedeHammer http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53533 SwedeHammer Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:33:27 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53533 I have been sitting here in LA staring at the computer in disbelieve, All sorts of comments and thoughts and then I read Andy's comment and...he is so right!! This is what Zola have to deal with and I feel sorry for him. Our weakest link is our defense, with this poor self esteem, all the team need is a goal down and...full collapse. Us starting to scream for heads to roll is NOT improving anybody's situation. Let's pick up on or two decent defenders in Jan., get Cole back on his feet and a few wins and we are back in it!! It's friggin' December and a hell of a lot of games left to play...let's get behind them!! COYI!! I have been sitting here in LA staring at the computer in disbelieve, All sorts of comments and thoughts and then I read Andy's comment and…he is so right!! This is what Zola have to deal with and I feel sorry for him. Our weakest link is our defense, with this poor self esteem, all the team need is a goal down and…full collapse. Us starting to scream for heads to roll is NOT improving anybody's situation. Let's pick up on or two decent defenders in Jan., get Cole back on his feet and a few wins and we are back in it!! It's friggin' December and a hell of a lot of games left to play…let's get behind them!! COYI!!

]]> By: Sactownhammer http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53499 Sactownhammer Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:42:39 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53499 I told you it's the system. You can swap players around and you still get the same result. How frustrating this is. 0 points against mediocre teams this past week. As long as this team keeps selling it's better players their won't be any success I told you it’s the system. You can swap players around and you still get the same result. How frustrating this
is. 0
points against mediocre teams this past week. As long as this team keeps
selling it’s better players their won’t be any success

]]> By: Braderz http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53495 Braderz Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:37:13 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53495 If you are true supporters you will get behind the team and we will pull through this. with two massive home games coming up after chelski as i don't see us winning that, pompey and wolves at home are must win games, 3 wins and we are mid table, it is very tight down the bottom so don't panic just yet, lets just hope for some good news soon as the off field problems seem to be effecting us like they did last time when we were in trouble. If you are true supporters you will get behind the team and we will pull through this. with two massive home games coming up after chelski as i don't see us winning that, pompey and wolves at home are must win games, 3 wins and we are mid table, it is very tight down the bottom so don't panic just yet, lets just hope for some good news soon as the off field problems seem to be effecting us like they did last time when we were in trouble.

]]> By: Braderz http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53490 Braderz Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:35:01 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53490 After watching the game i must admit i am livid, we need help and we need it quickly. Zola cannot be blamed in my opinion, he wants us to play football, if you watch our goal that states everything, it was magical. Green undoubtibly will be kicking himself. Rember when we lost to the spuds a few years back 4-3 and we thaught we were dead and burried but that game lifted our spirits and we stayed up, don't give up the faith as hard as it is i know. I am absolutely gutted about tonight but we must sort our deffence out. a new backline is what we need as that will shape things out to be better, going forward we looked strong until the final third, we were missing cole big time as he holds the ball up very well, we need some more players of his stature to give us an end product, where will this money come from, god knows but i am going to pray that we can get out of this and that we can get every bit of help possible. Straumer are obs effecting the team and must go and quite frankly i don't care who buys us anymore, anyone who can make the club stable and give us funds to buy fresh faces sounds fine to me as we need a quick solution. After watching the game i must admit i am livid, we need help and we need it quickly. Zola cannot be blamed in my opinion, he wants us to play football, if you watch our goal that states everything, it was magical. Green undoubtibly will be kicking himself. Rember when we lost to the spuds a few years back 4-3 and we thaught we were dead and burried but that game lifted our spirits and we stayed up, don't give up the faith as hard as it is i know. I am absolutely gutted about tonight but we must sort our deffence out. a new backline is what we need as that will shape things out to be better, going forward we looked strong until the final third, we were missing cole big time as he holds the ball up very well, we need some more players of his stature to give us an end product, where will this money come from, god knows but i am going to pray that we can get out of this and that we can get every bit of help possible. Straumer are obs effecting the team and must go and quite frankly i don't care who buys us anymore, anyone who can make the club stable and give us funds to buy fresh faces sounds fine to me as we need a quick solution.

]]> By: andyhammer http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/12/15/west-ham-v-bolton-match-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-53485 andyhammer Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:29:12 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=2964#comment-53485 Listen lads - we are all gutted about the result but let's see this as it is. 1. Get rid of Zola? Why? He couldnt have really played anyone else today because of injuries and then Dyer gets injured as well. Maybe Nouble could have played but we just dont have any options right now 2. Freakish mistake by Green for them to go 2-1 up. Lets get behind him as he has saved us so many times. he is a great keeper and deserves our support. He along with the others must be low on confidence. 3. Terrible errors by defense again. Why? Because they are not used to playing with each other. This is what you get when you sell Collins get rid of Neill and have Upson injured. It takes time to form a water-tight unit and this will never happen with so many injuries and players coming in and out. 4. The board has dismantled one of the best defenses of last year and sold it off. To be fair that is not Zola's fault. 5. If we are going to focus any of our frustration and rightful anger, then please let's focus it on the board and not Zola and the players. It doesn't help us to succeed. 6. West Ham Players are terribly low on confidence but I thought they played with commitment tonight - they came up short because of terrible defensive errors. See above. We MUST get behind the team- IT IS NOT THE TEAM, AND IT IS NOT THE MANAGER TO BLAME FOR THIS SEASON. IT IS THE BOARD We are different to all these other tin-pot clubs who shout for the manager's head. We should feel for zola with what is happening to the club is above his head. If he resigned now where would that leave us? The chelsea's, arsenal's and tottenhams of this world get on the back of the players the second they lose a couple of games - Let see the bigger picture here. We dont have the luxury of their board's. Zola is managing with his hands tied. Screw the board and get behind the management and the players. They are trying I feel. Listen lads – we are all gutted about the result but let's see this as it is.

1. Get rid of Zola? Why? He couldnt have really played anyone else today because of injuries and then Dyer gets injured as well. Maybe Nouble could have played but we just dont have any options right now

2. Freakish mistake by Green for them to go 2-1 up. Lets get behind him as he has saved us so many times. he is a great keeper and deserves our support. He along with the others must be low on confidence.

3. Terrible errors by defense again. Why? Because they are not used to playing with each other. This is what you get when you sell Collins get rid of Neill and have Upson injured. It takes time to form a water-tight unit and this will never happen with so many injuries and players coming in and out.

4. The board has dismantled one of the best defenses of last year and sold it off. To be fair that is not Zola's fault.

5. If we are going to focus any of our frustration and rightful anger, then please let's focus it on the board and not Zola and the players. It doesn't help us to succeed.

6. West Ham Players are terribly low on confidence but I thought they played with commitment tonight – they came up short because of terrible defensive errors. See above. We MUST get behind the team- IT IS NOT THE TEAM, AND IT IS NOT THE MANAGER TO BLAME FOR THIS SEASON. IT IS THE BOARD

We are different to all these other tin-pot clubs who shout for the manager's head. We should feel for zola with what is happening to the club is above his head. If he resigned now where would that leave us?
The chelsea's, arsenal's and tottenhams of this world get on the back of the players the second they lose a couple of games – Let see the bigger picture here. We dont have the luxury of their board's. Zola is managing with his hands tied.
Screw the board and get behind the management and the players. They are trying I feel.

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