Comments on: Tristan MK2? http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/ Iain Dale's Hammers Diary Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:40:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Willtell http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42199 Willtell Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:23:07 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42199 I agree completely with all that. A diamond formation leaves so much space on our flanks. A lot seem to think Clarke does the tactical stuff but I don't think so. I believe he plays a full supporting role to Zola. Clarke probably persuaded Zola to change tactics when we kept losing early in his reign but I hope Zola learns a lesson but I don't think anyone could hate him in the same way a lot did with Curbs. Our playing record hasn't been any better though and a coach or manager can only do as well as the players he has... Do you live near Barcelona then Tony to see them every week or is that just on the box? I agree completely with all that. A diamond formation leaves so much space on our flanks. A lot seem to think Clarke does the tactical stuff but I don't think so. I believe he plays a full supporting role to Zola. Clarke probably persuaded Zola to change tactics when we kept losing early in his reign but I hope Zola learns a lesson but I don't think anyone could hate him in the same way a lot did with Curbs. Our playing record hasn't been any better though and a coach or manager can only do as well as the players he has…

Do you live near Barcelona then Tony to see them every week or is that just on the box?

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42148 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:34:13 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42148 Gold has said in a interview that he was once youth player at WHU..horters right. But if you read a article...poss daily mail...about the time at birmingham not all good imo. The only financial investment made was the initial purchase. Then the club operated within its means/finances. They did a lot of cost cutting incl youth setup, put prices up and upset the fans. It was run properly, but was it just a business venture to make profit. They dont appear that young and so may see us as a similar project, looking to sell on later for a profit....to the highest bidder. The biggest danger to us really is that someone buys us with loans...like liverpool and man utd...passing the debt onto us in real terms. If they buy us with cash and run the club properly, we could not complain. The stability would be good and we would be free of the bankers atleast. we have no say in it anyway!!!!! Gold has said in a interview that he was once youth player at WHU..horters right. But if you read a article…poss daily mail…about the time at birmingham not all good imo. The only financial investment made was the initial purchase. Then the club operated within its means/finances. They did a lot of cost cutting incl youth setup, put prices up and upset the fans. It was run properly, but was it just a business venture to make profit. They dont appear that young and so may see us as a similar project, looking to sell on later for a profit….to the highest bidder. The biggest danger to us really is that someone buys us with loans…like liverpool and man utd…passing the debt onto us in real terms.
If they buy us with cash and run the club properly, we could not complain. The stability would be good and we would be free of the bankers atleast.
we have no say in it anyway!!!!!

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42146 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:16:27 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42146 the icelandic courts have a date set (sometime in december) to review our previous owners finances. He has a lot of debts and we are his only asset (apart from his house etc). The courts will want his debts paid as quickly as possible and may order us sold on the open market (auctioned) to highest bidder. Other people will then become involved...two previous inquiries/offers were made in the region of 50 mill app. One from asia. If auctioned doubt sullivan would be able to outbid them. Birmingham sale reported about 80 mill, i read sullivan getting around 25 to 30 mill. Previous owners bought us 125 mill approx plus 35 mill borrowed for purchases. CB holdings want to recoup as much as possible and they will argue against a auction and hope that the market recovers later getting them more, in time. The club is being run properly now and our financial situation should be much improved in the next set of accounts. the icelandic courts have a date set (sometime in december) to review our previous owners finances. He has a lot of debts and we are his only asset (apart from his house etc). The courts will want his debts paid as quickly as possible and may order us sold on the open market (auctioned) to highest bidder. Other people will then become involved…two previous inquiries/offers were made in the region of 50 mill app. One from asia. If auctioned doubt sullivan would be able to outbid them. Birmingham sale reported about 80 mill, i read sullivan getting around 25 to 30 mill.
Previous owners bought us 125 mill approx plus 35 mill borrowed for purchases. CB holdings want to recoup as much as possible and they will argue against a auction and hope that the market recovers later getting them more, in time.
The club is being run properly now and our financial situation should be much improved in the next set of accounts.

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42129 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:20:06 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42129 I would wash shiekh mohammeds camels daily if he agreed to buy us. I have said the same on here before...he is a real sportsman and does nothing by half. If it wasn't just a dream hey!!!! I would wash shiekh mohammeds camels daily if he agreed to buy us.
I have said the same on here before…he is a real sportsman and does nothing by half. If it wasn't just a dream hey!!!!

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42127 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:15:10 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42127 Then we will have a very unhappy player on our hands!!! He needs to play to goto WC. He came here to play in a high profile league. He had other offers and to get his signing (club desperate) we may of made a lot of promises about his playing regular...just a thought. Then we will have a very unhappy player on our hands!!!
He needs to play to goto WC. He came here to play in a high profile league. He had other offers and to get his signing (club desperate) we may of made a lot of promises about his playing regular…just a thought.

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42126 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:10:16 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42126 Even if they take over the only money we have, will be what we already have. They ran bcfc properly, but it was self funding. From article i read the only money they put in was the initial purchase money. They went on a cost cutting exercise, including getting rid of the youth team. The fans complained as the prices of everything went up. They got a good return on the bcfc investment in the end. They are not spring chickens anymore and will do the same at upton park, with a view to sell at a profit sometime in the future. They will try to use the bcfc sale money to buy us and thats not enough. So they may take out loans (which they will pass onto the club like liverpool,man utd owners). They simply dont have the money to suddenly give zola loads of cash. The sale of bcfc was reported 80 mill. App sullivan getting 25 to 30 mill for his stake. CB Holdings want prob a minimum of 100 mill for us...they really want to recover the 125mill purchase price plus the 35mill of loans!!! If they take us over we may be back in debt upto our eyeballs, it could be a disaster? Even if they take over the only money we have, will be what we already have. They ran bcfc properly, but it was self funding. From article i read the only money they put in was the initial purchase money. They went on a cost cutting exercise, including getting rid of the youth team. The fans complained as the prices of everything went up. They got a good return on the bcfc investment in the end. They are not spring chickens anymore and will do the same at upton park, with a view to sell at a profit sometime in the future. They will try to use the bcfc sale money to buy us and thats not enough. So they may take out loans (which they will pass onto the club like liverpool,man utd owners).
They simply dont have the money to suddenly give zola loads of cash. The sale of bcfc was reported 80 mill. App sullivan getting 25 to 30 mill for his stake. CB Holdings want prob a minimum of 100 mill for us…they really want to recover the 125mill purchase price plus the 35mill of loans!!!
If they take us over we may be back in debt upto our eyeballs, it could be a disaster?

]]> By: tonyjones http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42122 tonyjones Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:40:34 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42122 I think he is going to do it again v liverpool. Quote 'we will try to limit them and then progress and play our football'. I can see a diamond formation from that, with a holding midfielder. That will allow the pool f/backs to get at our defence and chuck in crosses for torrres all afternoon. We will then try to break and get into the spaces on counter attacks. I think we are in a minotity oh here. I'm torn, i honestly support zola etc and believe in unity at the club...seen previous damage with split crowd etc....but im beginning to doubt his tactical abilities. But ill try to defend him till xmas and re-think then. We are not Barca (i know i watch them every week) you cant just play like that cos its fashionable...we dont have xavi(fantastic player), iniesta or messi. Even if system eventually worked, we could be in big trouble by then. I think he is going to do it again v liverpool. Quote 'we will try to limit them and then progress and play our football'. I can see a diamond formation from that, with a holding midfielder. That will allow the pool f/backs to get at our defence and chuck in crosses for torrres all afternoon. We will then try to break and get into the spaces on counter attacks. I think we are in a minotity oh here. I'm torn, i honestly support zola etc and believe in unity at the club…seen previous damage with split crowd etc….but im beginning to doubt his tactical abilities. But ill try to defend him till xmas and re-think then. We are not Barca (i know i watch them every week) you cant just play like that cos its fashionable…we dont have xavi(fantastic player), iniesta or messi. Even if system eventually worked, we could be in big trouble by then.

]]> By: Daveip1966 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42094 Daveip1966 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:40:56 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42094 Horters - What I mean is that finally the club's own finances are stable: low enough overdraft, income slightly ahead of expenditure, with forthcoming charges planned for. Our current owners need a solid, commercially viable enterprise if they intend to recoup their money. CB Holdings' position looks reasonably secure for the short-term, so I don't see a quick, highly-leveraged sale happening in the near future. Horters – What I mean is that finally the club's own finances are stable: low enough overdraft, income slightly ahead of expenditure, with forthcoming charges planned for. Our current owners need a solid, commercially viable enterprise if they intend to recoup their money. CB Holdings' position looks reasonably secure for the short-term, so I don't see a quick, highly-leveraged sale happening in the near future.

]]> By: SJChandos http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42072 SJChandos Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:19:15 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42072 Thank you very much Bob, I have had a good time this week writing the blogs, even if no one else enjoyed reading them! LOL. On the title of the peice, you missed out the ?, which indicates that the issue is yet to be determined. And in the blog I am actually arguing that we should give Franco time to prove himself before condemning the deal. Thank you very much Bob, I have had a good time this week writing the blogs, even if no one else enjoyed reading them! LOL.

On the title of the peice, you missed out the ?, which indicates that the issue is yet to be determined. And in the blog I am actually arguing that we should give Franco time to prove himself before condemning the deal.

]]> By: Willtell http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2009/09/17/tristan-mk2/comment-page-1/#comment-42062 Willtell Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:33:55 +0000 http://www.westhamtillidie.com/?p=1839#comment-42062 I think we can agree on that DevoDevo. I think we can agree on that DevoDevo.

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