Comments on: If One Player Has to be Sold, Then it Should be… http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/ Iain Dale's Hammers Diary Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:57:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: stuart http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12824 stuart Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:52:20 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12824 totally agree Ian. I said the same thing to a mate at half time on Saturday myself. Although I have to say - I don't believe we need to sell ANY of our top players. Zola doesn't need to buy in anyone this Jan. A couple of loan signings (striker please) and an offload of some of our less than needed squad players should do the trick. I really don't believe we'll sell any of Green, Upson, Parker, or Bellamy. Unless we are offered totally silly money and a good replacement can be lined up. totally agree Ian. I said the same thing to a mate at half time on Saturday myself.

Although I have to say – I don’t believe we need to sell ANY of our top players. Zola doesn’t need to buy in anyone this Jan. A couple of loan signings (striker please) and an offload of some of our less than needed squad players should do the trick.

I really don’t believe we’ll sell any of Green, Upson, Parker, or Bellamy.

Unless we are offered totally silly money and a good replacement can be lined up.

]]> By: hammeredCalv http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12796 hammeredCalv Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:38:29 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12796 sorry iain, but i disagree, i think parker would be the best one to go, we have mullins and berhami that can play his role, and replace him with a younger creative midfielder, our defence is doing well so i wouldnt try to fix something thats not broken ! sorry iain, but i disagree, i think parker would be the best one to go, we have mullins and berhami that can play his role, and replace him with a younger creative midfielder, our defence is doing well so i wouldnt try to fix something thats not broken !

]]> By: jpt http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12795 jpt Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:55:31 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12795 No star players should go but I think I agree that if one does go then maybe it should be Upson. But none should go ideally. No star players should go but I think I agree that if one does go then maybe it should be Upson.
But none should go ideally.

]]> By: Goatygav http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12823 Goatygav Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:27:27 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12823 I agree with you Iain. In fact I think I've posted something similar recently. Fankly Clarke could get the best out of Davenport/Collins, Davenport/Tomkins, Collins/Tomkins or even Neill in the mix at CB (Although his ariel ability is in question). I'd add that the others don't have as much cover as Upson does and, therfore, would be missed more than he would. On the other hand I wouldn't want to lose any of the team's first choice spine at the moment. I agree with you Iain. In fact I think I’ve posted something similar recently. Fankly Clarke could get the best out of Davenport/Collins, Davenport/Tomkins, Collins/Tomkins or even Neill in the mix at CB (Although his ariel ability is in question).

I’d add that the others don’t have as much cover as Upson does and, therfore, would be missed more than he would.

On the other hand I wouldn’t want to lose any of the team’s first choice spine at the moment.

]]> By: FrannyZola http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12822 FrannyZola Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:23:32 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12822 AGREE Iain. Perfectly reasonable argument if it is read how it is meant. But, we must get a good price because he's an Eng international. Plus, if you read between the lines of his recent comments then I don't think that he would mind a move to a club higher in the table. I agree Davenport has been playing well but not sure if this is how good he really is or he is just having a good period. Plus with his latest hissy-fit he may be off in Jan. Hopefully we will get Gabbidon back who I still think is our best defender. If we are going to give Neil a new contract then he will have to play in central defence to negate the effect of his lack of pace. I really think he is at his best there. He has a lot of critics but mostly it's because of his lack of pace but he is a clever experienced player we can use. Liverpool weren't after him for of reason. His forward ball over the top is one of the best I've seen....something Bellamy would eat up on he break. AGREE Iain. Perfectly reasonable argument if it is read how it is meant.

But, we must get a good price because he’s an Eng international. Plus, if you read between the lines of his recent comments then I don’t think that he would mind a move to a club higher in the table.

I agree Davenport has been playing well but not sure if this is how good he really is or he is just having a good period. Plus with his latest hissy-fit he may be off in Jan. Hopefully we will get Gabbidon back who I still think is our best defender.

If we are going to give Neil a new contract then he will have to play in central defence to negate the effect of his lack of pace. I really think he is at his best there. He has a lot of critics but mostly it’s because of his lack of pace but he is a clever experienced player we can use. Liverpool weren’t after him for of reason. His forward ball over the top is one of the best I’ve seen….something Bellamy would eat up on he break.

]]> By: Upton Spark http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12821 Upton Spark Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:58:52 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12821 Agree with Paul M. Seems to be speaking some good sense. The only exception from his list is Ashton who I beleive is finished as a top striker due to his reacurring injuries on his weak ankle. It is a shame as i like ashton but sense would be to let him go at a decent price if we can get it? Tell you what though;it's going to be a hell of a year ahead if we can keep our top players with us and make a push up the table. Who knows what we can acvhieve? If Everton can do it,so can we. COME ON YOU IRONS!! Agree with Paul M. Seems to be speaking some good sense. The only exception from his list is Ashton who I beleive is finished as a top striker due to his reacurring injuries on his weak ankle. It is a shame as i like ashton but sense would be to let him go at a decent price if we can get it?
Tell you what though;it’s going to be a hell of a year ahead if we can keep our top players with us and make a push up the table. Who knows what we can acvhieve?
If Everton can do it,so can we.
COME ON YOU IRONS!!

]]> By: gossy http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12820 gossy Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:32:32 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12820 Fully agree with you Iain. If one of our top players has to go its Upson. 10/12mil for a 29 year old centre back is good business. Bells/Parker/Green cannot be sold at all costs. I'd echo most comments above though, getting rid of a selection of average would be the best option. LBM, Faux, Davenport, Quasie, Spector, Bowyer, Neill........ There is a wage saving and money raising plan that keep the quality, develops the youngsters (as they would be more involved) and continues the development of the club. I'm sure Zola/Clarke would also welcome 7 less players to worry about. Fully agree with you Iain. If one of our top players has to go its Upson. 10/12mil for a 29 year old centre back is good business. Bells/Parker/Green cannot be sold at all costs.

I’d echo most comments above though, getting rid of a selection of average would be the best option. LBM, Faux, Davenport, Quasie, Spector, Bowyer, Neill…….. There is a wage saving and money raising plan that keep the quality, develops the youngsters (as they would be more involved) and continues the development of the club. I’m sure Zola/Clarke would also welcome 7 less players to worry about.

]]> By: Paul M http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12819 Paul M Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:12:46 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12819 I noticed Ngala was on the bench against Stoke so if we are to sell I think we have too many centre backs. Upson must stay !! then Davenport/Collins with Tomkins and Ngala as back-up. Shift out Neil, (4 mil) no captain and far too slow and very much over rated and over paid !! Also Gabs has had his day, could be worth 1.5 million for someone like Bolton or Stoke. Out with Faubert 3mil (wishful thinking) Spector won't cut at top level and we have enough back-up so 1.5 mil for him. Ethers also for 2mil. Bowyer and Quashy 1mil each ta ta. That's 14 million of 'talent' - this would buy a top striker, how about Sturridge at citey, he looks the nuts and will only get better, but with very limited chances after January if Hughes buys all the superstars. So my must stays are: Green Upson Illunga (buy him) Parker Berhami Collison (find of the season) Noble Bellers Ashton Dyer IF we MUST sell, how about swap for Bellers for Sturridge + £5 million and all the deadwood listed above, that's a nice tidy profit of 19 - 20 million Happy new year all I noticed Ngala was on the bench against Stoke so if we are to sell I think we have too many centre backs. Upson must stay !! then Davenport/Collins with Tomkins and Ngala as back-up. Shift out Neil, (4 mil) no captain and far too slow and very much over rated and over paid !! Also Gabs has had his day, could be worth 1.5 million for someone like Bolton or Stoke. Out with Faubert 3mil (wishful thinking) Spector won’t cut at top level and we have enough back-up so 1.5 mil for him. Ethers also for 2mil. Bowyer and Quashy 1mil each ta ta.
That’s 14 million of ‘talent’ – this would buy a top striker, how about Sturridge at citey, he looks the nuts and will only get better, but with very limited chances after January if Hughes buys all the superstars.
So my must stays are:
Green
Upson
Illunga (buy him)
Parker
Berhami
Collison (find of the season)
Noble
Bellers
Ashton
Dyer

IF we MUST sell, how about swap for Bellers for Sturridge + £5 million and all the deadwood listed above, that’s a nice tidy profit of 19 – 20 million

Happy new year all

]]> By: StainesWestHam http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12818 StainesWestHam Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:52:06 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12818 I couldn't agree with you less. I don't rate James Collins particularly, I think he's a liability. He makes crucial mistakes - he gave away the free kick stupidly which meant we drew rather than won at Boro (Mido scored) and also he could have cost us at Sunderland with a very clumsy challenge that was probably a penalty. I think West Ham fans have a habit of liking players that aren't particularly good and JC is probably one of them (also remember Abou?). Collins is good in the air but a bit of a clutz on the deck. So no, I don't feel sorry for him! I couldn’t agree with you less. I don’t rate James Collins particularly, I think he’s a liability. He makes crucial mistakes – he gave away the free kick stupidly which meant we drew rather than won at Boro (Mido scored) and also he could have cost us at Sunderland with a very clumsy challenge that was probably a penalty. I think West Ham fans have a habit of liking players that aren’t particularly good and JC is probably one of them (also remember Abou?). Collins is good in the air but a bit of a clutz on the deck. So no, I don’t feel sorry for him!

]]> By: Gary http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/30/if-one-player-has-to-be-sold-then-it-should-be/comment-page-1/#comment-12817 Gary Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:07:54 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=791#comment-12817 Iain, I can see where you are coming from and probably agree with you but I would hate to see Upson go as I think it would put us on the slippery slope. I believe as has happened in the past that our better players would think we lack ambition and all decide to leave, so therefore it would probably not be a good idea to sell him. Iain, I can see where you are coming from and probably agree with you but I would hate to see Upson go as I think it would put us on the slippery slope.

I believe as has happened in the past that our better players would think we lack ambition and all decide to leave, so therefore it would probably not be a good idea to sell him.

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