Comments on: Stoke Match Report: Down With the Tottenham! http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/ Iain Dale's Hammers Diary Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:18:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Stoke Directorys http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-33134 Stoke Directorys Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:03:54 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-33134 I do feel sorry for Stoke, they do try I do feel sorry for Stoke, they do try

]]> By: DaDon http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12737 DaDon Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:30:25 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12737 Di Michele was NOT our worst player on Sunday. That's just crap and not even worth arguing. And even if it were true, players need a proper run in the team before they can be judged. You may have noticed that Tristan hasn't exactly set the world alight, but I don't notice anyone slagging him off because it would be very premature. The same is true of Di Michele, give the guy a break. Di Michele was NOT our worst player on Sunday. That’s just crap and not even worth arguing. And even if it were true, players need a proper run in the team before they can be judged. You may have noticed that Tristan hasn’t exactly set the world alight, but I don’t notice anyone slagging him off because it would be very premature. The same is true of Di Michele, give the guy a break.

]]> By: Roy http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12736 Roy Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:34:25 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12736 Big Casino is right with one exception. Di Michele is a joke. OK he scored twice in a game earlier in the season but even then had a poor game. He was our worst player on Sunday (worse than Faubert!) and is probably only here for the money. Kneeling down, doing up his boots, against Tottenham when a free kick was being launched into the box was laughable. He couldn't get a game for Torino - a well below average Serie A side - so what exactly makes him good for us? On another point of player judgement, I heard Iain on 5-Live on my way to the game on Sunday. He called Damien Duff "one of the best wingers in the world". Eh? He was a good player when he joined Chelsea but is distinctly average now, although I will concede he has had a lot of injuries. But one of the best wingers in the world? Without even thinking about it I give you Messi, Ronanldo, Ribery, Young, Walcott, Robben etc., etc. - and even though the last three are not among the best in the world thay are several long streets ahead of Duff. Still, we all have our own opinions. Big Casino is right with one exception. Di Michele is a joke. OK he scored twice in a game earlier in the season but even then had a poor game. He was our worst player on Sunday (worse than Faubert!) and is probably only here for the money. Kneeling down, doing up his boots, against Tottenham when a free kick was being launched into the box was laughable. He couldn’t get a game for Torino – a well below average Serie A side – so what exactly makes him good for us?
On another point of player judgement, I heard Iain on 5-Live on my way to the game on Sunday. He called Damien Duff “one of the best wingers in the world”. Eh? He was a good player when he joined Chelsea but is distinctly average now, although I will concede he has had a lot of injuries. But one of the best wingers in the world? Without even thinking about it I give you Messi, Ronanldo, Ribery, Young, Walcott, Robben etc., etc. – and even though the last three are not among the best in the world thay are several long streets ahead of Duff.
Still, we all have our own opinions.

]]> By: Scalyback http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12735 Scalyback Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:59:46 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12735 Have to agree with Imp in his repost to Big Casino. Everything he says is fact and irrefutable, as much as I liked Zamora.... Have to agree with Imp in his repost to Big Casino. Everything he says is fact and irrefutable, as much as I liked Zamora….

]]> By: chache http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12734 chache Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:53:30 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12734 Hola Hammers! creo que deberíais confiar en Tristán. Es un jugador especial y si se siente querido es capaz de todo. Él tiene mucho arte en sus botas, para regalar juego y goles al equipo. Y el West Ham tiene un equilibrado y muy buen equipo con el que se puede compactar. Ánimo DIEGOL!!!! Eres muy grande. Vamos Hammers GOOOO WEST HAM, go for the gol!!!! Cieza's Hammers Hola Hammers! creo que deberíais confiar en Tristán. Es un jugador especial y si se siente querido es capaz de todo. Él tiene mucho arte en sus botas, para regalar juego y goles al equipo. Y el West Ham tiene un equilibrado y muy buen equipo con el que se puede compactar.
Ánimo DIEGOL!!!! Eres muy grande.
Vamos Hammers
GOOOO WEST HAM, go for the gol!!!!

Cieza’s Hammers

]]> By: Imp http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12733 Imp Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:43:02 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12733 Big Casino, put quite simply, you baffle me. Zamora over Di Michele, McCartney over Ilunga?! Utter Nonsense. Firstly, Zamora has played every game but one for Fulham this term and has scored, wait for it.....once. Di Michele, with only two full games and a handful of substitute appearances, managed to scored twice and get an assist on his, and Zola's debut (I remember well, big fantasy league week for me!). In short, give the man a chance. We managed to endure Zamora's mediocrity for 4 years, waiting for Di Michele to turn the corner should be a walk in the park... Secondly, Nani, far from being a misguided fool 'whos got it wrong', is a shrewd man with an eye for a talent. Ilunga, who has been a revelation since donning the claret and blue, is not only an adept replacement for Macca, but was also free of charge. Di Michele was free, as was Walter Lopez and a certain Mr Tristan. Please explain to me how strengthening the depth of our squad, free of charge (with the exception of wages, of course) is a bad move. Whether these players will cut the mustard in the long term is irrelevant; with these players on board we have options in a squad ravaged by injury, and as the old adage goes, 'the best thing in life are free'. The man brought us Valon Behrami, and brought the world Andrea Pirlo, Luca Toni and Roberto Baggio (amongst others, so ease off and give the man a chance! Big Casino, put quite simply, you baffle me.

Zamora over Di Michele, McCartney over Ilunga?! Utter Nonsense.

Firstly, Zamora has played every game but one for Fulham this term and has scored, wait for it…..once. Di Michele, with only two full games and a handful of substitute appearances, managed to scored twice and get an assist on his, and Zola’s debut (I remember well, big fantasy league week for me!). In short, give the man a chance. We managed to endure Zamora’s mediocrity for 4 years, waiting for Di Michele to turn the corner should be a walk in the park…

Secondly, Nani, far from being a misguided fool ‘whos got it wrong’, is a shrewd man with an eye for a talent. Ilunga, who has been a revelation since donning the claret and blue, is not only an adept replacement for Macca, but was also free of charge. Di Michele was free, as was Walter Lopez and a certain Mr Tristan. Please explain to me how strengthening the depth of our squad, free of charge (with the exception of wages, of course) is a bad move. Whether these players will cut the mustard in the long term is irrelevant; with these players on board we have options in a squad ravaged by injury, and as the old adage goes, ‘the best thing in life are free’.

The man brought us Valon Behrami, and brought the world Andrea Pirlo, Luca Toni and Roberto Baggio (amongst others, so ease off and give the man a chance!

]]> By: Goatygav http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12732 Goatygav Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:39:38 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12732 I LOVE it when a team waste time and it end's up their own that they've wasted. Of all the uninspired things about football it's the one that bugs me most. Worst of all is when players go to the corner flag and sheild the ball. Whether it's the other team or West Ham it's the thing that gets my goat the most!! I LOVE it when a team waste time and it end’s up their own that they’ve wasted. Of all the uninspired things about football it’s the one that bugs me most. Worst of all is when players go to the corner flag and sheild the ball. Whether it’s the other team or West Ham it’s the thing that gets my goat the most!!

]]> By: DevoDevo http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12731 DevoDevo Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:07:14 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12731 Mike - Ilunga jaded? He never stopped attacking and was our one player getting in wide positions. OK, Faux Pas did as well, but then he can't cross for love nor money. Newcastle are there for the taking, as are Hull. Fulham represent our hardest task coming up and it wouldn't be a surprise if Bobby Z scored (he's due one!). If we can get 7 points (6 would still be good), from these then we would be looking to press for a European place. The recent performances make the Tottenham debacle baffling. One of the worst Spurs sides I have seen and we gifted them 3 points. Good to see you're still here, Toby! :) You were lucky against us but should have buried Arsenal in the 1st half. Good point in the end. Mike – Ilunga jaded? He never stopped attacking and was our one player getting in wide positions. OK, Faux Pas did as well, but then he can’t cross for love nor money.

Newcastle are there for the taking, as are Hull. Fulham represent our hardest task coming up and it wouldn’t be a surprise if Bobby Z scored (he’s due one!).

If we can get 7 points (6 would still be good), from these then we would be looking to press for a European place.

The recent performances make the Tottenham debacle baffling. One of the worst Spurs sides I have seen and we gifted them 3 points.

Good to see you’re still here, Toby! :) You were lucky against us but should have buried Arsenal in the 1st half. Good point in the end.

]]> By: WHU Kim http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12730 WHU Kim Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:44:42 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12730 I agree nearly all of your comments Iain although I think Tristan was a class player in his time and has a goal scorers instinct. He may not have known much about the goal but the fact was he was in there for the rebound. A poacher will get goals. I do not rate Di Michelle though and I also think he's blocking opportunities for Sears. The ref should have nipped Stokes timewasting in the bud by getting the yellow card out much sooner, they were at it from the start. I am really disappointed that you were nasty to Spurs though, please remember at all times that they are a BIG CLUB. I repeat they are a BIG CLUB and will soon be pushing for the Champions League...... I agree nearly all of your comments Iain although I think Tristan was a class player in his time and has a goal scorers instinct. He may not have known much about the goal but the fact was he was in there for the rebound. A poacher will get goals. I do not rate Di Michelle though and I also think he’s blocking opportunities for Sears. The ref should have nipped Stokes timewasting in the bud by getting the yellow card out much sooner, they were at it from the start.

I am really disappointed that you were nasty to Spurs though, please remember at all times that they are a BIG CLUB. I repeat they are a BIG CLUB and will soon be pushing for the Champions League……

]]> By: the headmaster http://www.westhamtillidie.com/2008/12/28/stoke-match-report-down-with-the-tottenham/comment-page-2/#comment-12729 the headmaster Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:09:10 +0000 http://westham.wordpress.com/?p=793#comment-12729 Stoke were utterly dreadful and got what they deserved - thankfully. This game was won by our centrebacks solidity (again), as well as the creativity of collison, Berhami, Ilunga, LBM and the persistence of Cole. Faubert was poor and the right back position remains seriously weak in Neil's absence. Di Michele is nowhere near the pace of the prem yet and may never get there. Most frustrating player for me yesterday was Parker. Slow and indecisive going forward and lost the ball on countless occasions. Stoke were utterly dreadful and got what they deserved – thankfully.

This game was won by our centrebacks solidity (again), as well as the creativity of collison, Berhami, Ilunga, LBM and the persistence of Cole.
Faubert was poor and the right back position remains seriously weak in Neil’s absence. Di Michele is nowhere near the pace of the prem yet and may never get there.
Most frustrating player for me yesterday was Parker. Slow and indecisive going forward and lost the ball on countless occasions.

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