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		<title>By: MrNorwich</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrNorwich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh how funny is this article.....

Must be feeling pretty stupid now, Ey&#039; Mr.&#039;Journalist&#039;? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh how funny is this article&#8230;..</p>
<p>Must be feeling pretty stupid now, Ey&#8217; Mr.&#8217;Journalist&#8217;? <img src='http://www.westhamtillidie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Me - Canaryjimbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me - Canaryjimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t see how you can belittle someone&#039;s achievment when your own success is so limited!

A Tory losing an election in NORFOLK - possibly the most Conservative area of England - is far worse than a manager with a potentially fatal illness relegating a team who&#039;s players gave up a few weeks into the season.

They may have been good, but Defoe, Carrick and co. all knew they could do much, much better than West Ham, and this showed on the pitch.

Also, you slate Roeder for finishing in a decent position before being relegated the following season...why not Alan Pardew, who did his best to match Roeder&#039;s record, and probably would have done had it not been for an ex-Norwich goalkeeper...

There are winners and losers in life. You are the latter - just ask Mr Smyth...he even has results to prove it!

Oh, and when you write an actual apology rather than a sarcastic, arrogant attempt at covering up your mistakes with shockingly un-funny humour, then maybe people will start taking you seriously, and stop writing posts questioning your ability?

Until then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t see how you can belittle someone&#8217;s achievment when your own success is so limited!</p>
<p>A Tory losing an election in NORFOLK &#8211; possibly the most Conservative area of England &#8211; is far worse than a manager with a potentially fatal illness relegating a team who&#8217;s players gave up a few weeks into the season.</p>
<p>They may have been good, but Defoe, Carrick and co. all knew they could do much, much better than West Ham, and this showed on the pitch.</p>
<p>Also, you slate Roeder for finishing in a decent position before being relegated the following season&#8230;why not Alan Pardew, who did his best to match Roeder&#8217;s record, and probably would have done had it not been for an ex-Norwich goalkeeper&#8230;</p>
<p>There are winners and losers in life. You are the latter &#8211; just ask Mr Smyth&#8230;he even has results to prove it!</p>
<p>Oh, and when you write an actual apology rather than a sarcastic, arrogant attempt at covering up your mistakes with shockingly un-funny humour, then maybe people will start taking you seriously, and stop writing posts questioning your ability?</p>
<p>Until then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read this I can say only one thing, THANK GOD FOR NORMAN LAMB!!!</description>
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		<title>By: What a Roeder tosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a Roeder tosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>continued from post before... (it wouldn&#039;t let me finish!)

Oh and by the way, if you wish to claw back any respect as a ‘journalist’ I suggest you proof-read the posts you leave on your own site.  I mean it&#039;s just good houskeeping for a journalist right?  To spell correctly.  On his own site.  A journalist, yeah?  I&#039;m talking about the post informing us you have tried to write a funny apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>continued from post before&#8230; (it wouldn&#8217;t let me finish!)</p>
<p>Oh and by the way, if you wish to claw back any respect as a ‘journalist’ I suggest you proof-read the posts you leave on your own site.  I mean it&#8217;s just good houskeeping for a journalist right?  To spell correctly.  On his own site.  A journalist, yeah?  I&#8217;m talking about the post informing us you have tried to write a funny apology.</p>
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		<title>By: What a Roeder tosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a Roeder tosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are an exceptionally poor journalist with bad judgement and weak grammar and spelling.  You have poor grasp of how to employ irony to convey humour.  (See apology thread)  However, the funniest thing I find about you is your total lack of credibility.  I will be joining the growing band of Canaries stating my disapproval at the EDP&#039;s choice to employ you.  Not because you write a load of misinformed conjecture but just because you are an utterly dire read.  Sadly a wasted two minutes of my life I will never be able to get back.

Now here&#039;s the real irony Iain, mate!  You write about Roeder&#039;s failings in his career.  This from a failed politician and someone who is increasingly providing evidence of his failings a journalist too.

The ridiculous thing is, I bet you absolutely love this attention.  You have never seen so many people comment on something you have written before.  Right?  Well, enjoy it while it lasts.  You 15 minutes of infamy is close to its end.  I imagine you loyal band of Hammers readers will soon realise you write a load of crap too!

Good night, xx



Oh and by the way, if you wish to claw back any respect as a &#039;journalist&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an exceptionally poor journalist with bad judgement and weak grammar and spelling.  You have poor grasp of how to employ irony to convey humour.  (See apology thread)  However, the funniest thing I find about you is your total lack of credibility.  I will be joining the growing band of Canaries stating my disapproval at the EDP&#8217;s choice to employ you.  Not because you write a load of misinformed conjecture but just because you are an utterly dire read.  Sadly a wasted two minutes of my life I will never be able to get back.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s the real irony Iain, mate!  You write about Roeder&#8217;s failings in his career.  This from a failed politician and someone who is increasingly providing evidence of his failings a journalist too.</p>
<p>The ridiculous thing is, I bet you absolutely love this attention.  You have never seen so many people comment on something you have written before.  Right?  Well, enjoy it while it lasts.  You 15 minutes of infamy is close to its end.  I imagine you loyal band of Hammers readers will soon realise you write a load of crap too!</p>
<p>Good night, xx</p>
<p>Oh and by the way, if you wish to claw back any respect as a &#8216;journalist&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Sussex Canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sussex Canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5 Points adrift at the bottom of the table. 11 Games without a win, very rarely producing goals. Carrow Road would always guarantee the opposition three points. Players losing any sort of desire to play for the game, losing time after time. The majority of Norwich fans thought relegation was inevitable, the amount of points we had to produce seemed impossible based on the teams form. Peter Grant couldn&#039;t do a thing. Doom seem assured towards the end of his reign.

Glenn Roeder came in.

A few bad results came in. He immediately noticed, and dealt with the problems at hand with minimal timing. The defence looked strong, and no longer awkward, relying on a 38 year old striker to clear up their mess. The midfield went from a side that only ever watched the ball pass over their heads, while we played route 1 football, to an engine, providing and scoring goals. We are now on an 11 game unbeaten run now, from the most out of form to the form team of the division, not gaining a win in 11. And he did all this, provided with little funds from our stubborn board (damn &quot;prudence and ambition&quot; Doomcaster). He&#039;s molded a team pulling out performances that seemed unthinkable at the start of the season (if you have been to Carrow Road this season Ian, surely you&#039;d have to be struck blind, def and dumb not to notice the up in the teams performance, and their new found spirit).

Now i understand Roeder was harsh to your fans, but at his time there did you ever notice he ever gets a little caught up in the moment? Hell, he&#039;s only been here over 3 months and everyone who follows the yellow and green already notices that. The incident where he booted the bag in the derby and broke a toe? Or how about almost every time we score he runs to celebrate with the fans? Over this i think he can be excused if you are willing to show any mercy, it&#039;s what roeder is like, i mean the man suffered from a brain tumour for Christ sake. You lot seem very heartless over in London.

Overall what he&#039;s done here has been nothing short of a miracle. The fans love him, he loves us, and he&#039;s achieved what i personally think no other manager could of possibly done in the championship, hell even England. So Ian Dale, you are clearly not worth the time if all you are going to do is moan about him being bastard. Surely that can&#039;t limit his managing capabilities? I&#039;d like to see if Alan Curbishley can take you as high up as Roeder did in the Premier League with a Brain Tumour.

All your column has done Ian, is just lower the respect any fans in Norfolk have for West Ham fans. At the moment your coming across as a moaning bunch of C..ts to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 Points adrift at the bottom of the table. 11 Games without a win, very rarely producing goals. Carrow Road would always guarantee the opposition three points. Players losing any sort of desire to play for the game, losing time after time. The majority of Norwich fans thought relegation was inevitable, the amount of points we had to produce seemed impossible based on the teams form. Peter Grant couldn&#8217;t do a thing. Doom seem assured towards the end of his reign.</p>
<p>Glenn Roeder came in.</p>
<p>A few bad results came in. He immediately noticed, and dealt with the problems at hand with minimal timing. The defence looked strong, and no longer awkward, relying on a 38 year old striker to clear up their mess. The midfield went from a side that only ever watched the ball pass over their heads, while we played route 1 football, to an engine, providing and scoring goals. We are now on an 11 game unbeaten run now, from the most out of form to the form team of the division, not gaining a win in 11. And he did all this, provided with little funds from our stubborn board (damn &#8220;prudence and ambition&#8221; Doomcaster). He&#8217;s molded a team pulling out performances that seemed unthinkable at the start of the season (if you have been to Carrow Road this season Ian, surely you&#8217;d have to be struck blind, def and dumb not to notice the up in the teams performance, and their new found spirit).</p>
<p>Now i understand Roeder was harsh to your fans, but at his time there did you ever notice he ever gets a little caught up in the moment? Hell, he&#8217;s only been here over 3 months and everyone who follows the yellow and green already notices that. The incident where he booted the bag in the derby and broke a toe? Or how about almost every time we score he runs to celebrate with the fans? Over this i think he can be excused if you are willing to show any mercy, it&#8217;s what roeder is like, i mean the man suffered from a brain tumour for Christ sake. You lot seem very heartless over in London.</p>
<p>Overall what he&#8217;s done here has been nothing short of a miracle. The fans love him, he loves us, and he&#8217;s achieved what i personally think no other manager could of possibly done in the championship, hell even England. So Ian Dale, you are clearly not worth the time if all you are going to do is moan about him being bastard. Surely that can&#8217;t limit his managing capabilities? I&#8217;d like to see if Alan Curbishley can take you as high up as Roeder did in the Premier League with a Brain Tumour.</p>
<p>All your column has done Ian, is just lower the respect any fans in Norfolk have for West Ham fans. At the moment your coming across as a moaning bunch of C..ts to be honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony_Munky_Canary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony_Munky_Canary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!  Eaten that humble pie yet Iain?

And I&#039;m sorry but no, that pathetic retraction article of yours doesn&#039;t wash with me I&#039;m afraid.  You&#039;re just another idiot journalist with idiotic journalistic opinions. I&#039;ve only found your page through a link on a Norwich forum, and I hope that I lose it just as instantly as my life is far too short to read any more of your tosh.

12 games unbeaten and counting!  We love you Glenn, play-offs here we come!!

The EDP should be ashamed of itself. (By the way your article should have been edited, I spotted at least one spelling mistake in there. Amateur!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!  Eaten that humble pie yet Iain?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sorry but no, that pathetic retraction article of yours doesn&#8217;t wash with me I&#8217;m afraid.  You&#8217;re just another idiot journalist with idiotic journalistic opinions. I&#8217;ve only found your page through a link on a Norwich forum, and I hope that I lose it just as instantly as my life is far too short to read any more of your tosh.</p>
<p>12 games unbeaten and counting!  We love you Glenn, play-offs here we come!!</p>
<p>The EDP should be ashamed of itself. (By the way your article should have been edited, I spotted at least one spelling mistake in there. Amateur!).</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly I have the benefit of hindsight but Roeder is a top class manager who has turned around the worst Norwich side I have ever seen into a side capable of promotion. Not exactly appalling. You never gave him a chance he finished 7th with you the season before that remember. He kept Gillingham up and finsihed 7th at Newcastle with little money. Thats not bad in my book! You were not at &quot;one&quot; with him as illustrated by the appalling tumour boy chants. I feel you have skated over his record to suit your own opinions!

 In Glen We Trust he is a legend!

On the Ball City</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly I have the benefit of hindsight but Roeder is a top class manager who has turned around the worst Norwich side I have ever seen into a side capable of promotion. Not exactly appalling. You never gave him a chance he finished 7th with you the season before that remember. He kept Gillingham up and finsihed 7th at Newcastle with little money. Thats not bad in my book! You were not at &#8220;one&#8221; with him as illustrated by the appalling tumour boy chants. I feel you have skated over his record to suit your own opinions!</p>
<p> In Glen We Trust he is a legend!</p>
<p>On the Ball City</p>
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		<title>By: tommy2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Iain- while a Canary fan I am not about to slate your atricle and I fully aprreciate and agree with your right to write what you like!- and hindisght is a wonderful thing- I&#039;m sure even many Norwich fans felt the same as you at the time but would not admit it now..

The one gripe I do have is the fairly sweeping statement that GR was a failure at Waford, Gillingham, West Ham and Newcastle...

He finished 8th in his second season at Watford- not great but not bad...

As one of Hoddles coaches at the World Cup 98 most would agree England were unlucky to be knocked out on pens and due to Beckhams &#039;savage&#039; foul that earned him the red card!

He finished 7th with The Hammers in his first season in charge- er.. where are they now?! Yes they&#039;ve had one decent season since when they got into Europe again... but GR&#039;s first season has hardly been bettered...

He took Newcastle from the foot of the table to 7th in the Pemiership- er.. again where are they now?! I think it has now become apparent that their problems lie deeper than the manager...

YES he has had some bad seasons as well- so he is hardly consistent- but a more considered opinion would hardly deem his managerial/ coaching career until now a &#039;complete failure&#039;!- Perhaps why some think you are a little bitter and were waging a vendetta in the above article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Iain- while a Canary fan I am not about to slate your atricle and I fully aprreciate and agree with your right to write what you like!- and hindisght is a wonderful thing- I&#8217;m sure even many Norwich fans felt the same as you at the time but would not admit it now..</p>
<p>The one gripe I do have is the fairly sweeping statement that GR was a failure at Waford, Gillingham, West Ham and Newcastle&#8230;</p>
<p>He finished 8th in his second season at Watford- not great but not bad&#8230;</p>
<p>As one of Hoddles coaches at the World Cup 98 most would agree England were unlucky to be knocked out on pens and due to Beckhams &#8216;savage&#8217; foul that earned him the red card!</p>
<p>He finished 7th with The Hammers in his first season in charge- er.. where are they now?! Yes they&#8217;ve had one decent season since when they got into Europe again&#8230; but GR&#8217;s first season has hardly been bettered&#8230;</p>
<p>He took Newcastle from the foot of the table to 7th in the Pemiership- er.. again where are they now?! I think it has now become apparent that their problems lie deeper than the manager&#8230;</p>
<p>YES he has had some bad seasons as well- so he is hardly consistent- but a more considered opinion would hardly deem his managerial/ coaching career until now a &#8216;complete failure&#8217;!- Perhaps why some think you are a little bitter and were waging a vendetta in the above article!</p>
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		<title>By: colincanary</title>
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		<dc:creator>colincanary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 12:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so mad about this - I could stamp my feet and scream.</description>
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